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  Thou Art GOD

  by the dreamer dreaming in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what you dream must be manufactured by some part of you, let us call it the generator of dreams, prior to the part of you that witnesses can witness it, which seems a necessity since there is no conscious awareness of it be manufactured by the part of you which watches it.. in many cases you are very much suprized by what you dream and how it unfolds.

  yet its conceded by most that you yourself are the source of both, the dream and the dreamer..... what exactly would god be if take away all the religious a$$ kissing and sucking up?

  the ultimate reality that became aware...and since there was nothing but god to be aware of.... dreaming of something gods true nature could dream up... a universe of possibilities.. you have never known a moment when you did not exist.. you have always been in the center of the only universe you know.. as far as you can tell, everything you know is your own mind's interpretation of reality...and you are reality.. .

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  the dreamer dreaming

  neither the Generator Of Dreams nor the Dreamer can be described in terms of Dream elements, yet that is all we can discuss...

  so the answer is void of descriptions, yet not non-existant.
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  Thou Art GOD

  by the dreamer dreaming in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what you dream must be manufactured by some part of you, let us call it the generator of dreams, prior to the part of you that witnesses can witness it, which seems a necessity since there is no conscious awareness of it be manufactured by the part of you which watches it.. in many cases you are very much suprized by what you dream and how it unfolds.

  yet its conceded by most that you yourself are the source of both, the dream and the dreamer..... what exactly would god be if take away all the religious a$$ kissing and sucking up?

  the ultimate reality that became aware...and since there was nothing but god to be aware of.... dreaming of something gods true nature could dream up... a universe of possibilities.. you have never known a moment when you did not exist.. you have always been in the center of the only universe you know.. as far as you can tell, everything you know is your own mind's interpretation of reality...and you are reality.. .

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  the dreamer dreaming

  The best teacher is he who can show you that you never needed one.
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  Thou Art GOD

  by the dreamer dreaming in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what you dream must be manufactured by some part of you, let us call it the generator of dreams, prior to the part of you that witnesses can witness it, which seems a necessity since there is no conscious awareness of it be manufactured by the part of you which watches it.. in many cases you are very much suprized by what you dream and how it unfolds.

  yet its conceded by most that you yourself are the source of both, the dream and the dreamer..... what exactly would god be if take away all the religious a$$ kissing and sucking up?

  the ultimate reality that became aware...and since there was nothing but god to be aware of.... dreaming of something gods true nature could dream up... a universe of possibilities.. you have never known a moment when you did not exist.. you have always been in the center of the only universe you know.. as far as you can tell, everything you know is your own mind's interpretation of reality...and you are reality.. .

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  the dreamer dreaming

  In the beginning was the Dreamer

  and the Dreamer was with the Generator Of Dreams

  and the Dreamer was the Generator Of Dreams.

  All things were dreamt by him and without him was not anything dreamt that was dreamt. -John 1:1-3

  I and the source of my dreams are one -John 10:

  Within the Generator Of Dreams, we live and move and have our being - Acts 17:28

  We are heirs of the Generator Of Dreams, and Joint heirs with the Dreamer.
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  Thou Art GOD

  by the dreamer dreaming in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what you dream must be manufactured by some part of you, let us call it the generator of dreams, prior to the part of you that witnesses can witness it, which seems a necessity since there is no conscious awareness of it be manufactured by the part of you which watches it.. in many cases you are very much suprized by what you dream and how it unfolds.

  yet its conceded by most that you yourself are the source of both, the dream and the dreamer..... what exactly would god be if take away all the religious a$$ kissing and sucking up?

  the ultimate reality that became aware...and since there was nothing but god to be aware of.... dreaming of something gods true nature could dream up... a universe of possibilities.. you have never known a moment when you did not exist.. you have always been in the center of the only universe you know.. as far as you can tell, everything you know is your own mind's interpretation of reality...and you are reality.. .

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  the dreamer dreaming

  who is asking?
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  Thou Art GOD

  by the dreamer dreaming in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what you dream must be manufactured by some part of you, let us call it the generator of dreams, prior to the part of you that witnesses can witness it, which seems a necessity since there is no conscious awareness of it be manufactured by the part of you which watches it.. in many cases you are very much suprized by what you dream and how it unfolds.

  yet its conceded by most that you yourself are the source of both, the dream and the dreamer..... what exactly would god be if take away all the religious a$$ kissing and sucking up?

  the ultimate reality that became aware...and since there was nothing but god to be aware of.... dreaming of something gods true nature could dream up... a universe of possibilities.. you have never known a moment when you did not exist.. you have always been in the center of the only universe you know.. as far as you can tell, everything you know is your own mind's interpretation of reality...and you are reality.. .

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  the dreamer dreaming

  What you dream must be manufactured by some part of you, let us call it the Generator Of Dreams, prior to the part of you that witnesses can witness it, which seems a necessity since there is no conscious awareness of it be manufactured by the part of you which watches it.
  in many cases you are very much suprized by what you dream and how it unfolds. Yet its conceded by most that you yourself are the source of both, the dream and the dreamer....

  what exactly would GOD be if take away all the religious a$$ kissing and sucking up? the ultimate reality that became aware...and since there was nothing but GOD to be aware of.... dreaming of something GODs true nature could dream up... a universe of possibilities.

  YOU have NEVER known a moment when YOU did not exist.

  YOU have always been in the center of the only universe YOU know.

  as far as YOU can tell, everything YOU know is YOUR own mind's interpretation of reality...and YOU ARE reality.

  THOU ART GOD

  the Generator Of Dreams

  and you are the DREAMER DREAMING

  We are one.

  most of the world is chasing its own tail wondering why GOD is not acting for them...or like the fish they are looking for the ocean.
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  God is Not Great

  by bluesapphire in

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  has anyone read this book?

  while the author's writing style is pedantic and he seems to be too full of himself, he makes some very interesting points about religion.

  i'm about half way through.

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  the dreamer dreaming

  What you dream must be manufactured by some part of you, let us call it the Generator Of Dreams, prior to the part of you that witnesses can witness it, which seems a necessity since there is no conscious awareness of it be manufactured by the part of you which watches it.
  in many cases you are very much suprized by what you dream and how it unfolds. Yet its conceded by most that you yourself are the source of both, the dream and the dreamer....

  what exactly would GOD be if take away all the religious a$$ kissing and sucking up? the ultimate reality that became aware...and since there was nothing but GOD to be aware of.... dreaming of something GODs true nature could dream up... a universe of possibilities.

  YOU have NEVER known a moment when YOU did not exist.

  YOU have always been in the center of the only universe YOU know.

  as far as YOU can tell, everything YOU know is YOUR own mind's interpretation of reality...and YOU ARE reality.

  THOU ART GOD

  the Generator Of Dreams

  and you are the DREAMER DREAMING

  We are one.

  If you want to know why the world is so messed up, its because everyone except the pantheists and atheists are chasing their own tails looking for themselves [GOD] outside themselves.
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  The evolution of human consciousness

  by changeling in

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  we often compare those who act violently to animals.. we do the same with those who rant and rave irrationally.. even those who do not believe in evolution do so.

  they say things like: "that jeffrey dhamer was an animal", or "terrorists are animals".

  could violence and irrationallity be a throw back to an earlier form or being?.

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  the dreamer dreaming

  it seems to me that the basic problem is and has been that most humans are entranced by religon culture and tradtion to serve false ideals [idols?] which demand that they hate and do all in their power to undermine everyone who does not obey their hypnotist, er, leader, god, whatever.

  more and more people are awakening to the fact that just about all belief systems are bs and that no one really knows the answers as tehy are pretending--that may indicate an evolution in consciousness as fewer and fewer are allowing others to think for them...I may be just imaginging this .

  ... until a number large enough to effect change is reached we will not solve the real problems because most people are under the notion that THEIR Belief System already has t the answers.
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  Beliefs, Honesty

  by Hiddenwindow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not too long ago, i heard a district overseer say, at a circuit assembly, something astonishing; that he would continue to be a jehovahs witness even if it was proven to him that god does not exist.

  his point was the organization and its moral standards protect people from a lot of trouble and that this by itself is very positive aspect.

  i could not forget such a statement and, just as an exercise, started to pose the following scenario to some of my friends, including several ministerial servants an one elder: if you some how determine that this is not the truth, would you continue to be a witness?

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  the dreamer dreaming

  When I first met my now ex wife in 1986, she was a pioneer and seemed to be one of the most versed in WT speak. She answered intelligently and often at all meetings and was held up to the cong as one of THE examples...

  1 year after our marriage in 1989, when I wake from the borg trance, we start discussing all our doubts and it comes out that for over TWO YEARS prior to our wedding, she was only going through the motions... she had lost faith in the BORGanziation and Jehovah but found the pain of FREEDOM too hard to bare. the psychological damage of being BORG from the age of five was too powerful for her to overcome on her own... it was only after my departure that she found the ability to break free... infact even after I stopped going she still continued for a while.

  I had noticed things while we were dating, but I had attributed them to her medical condition --a condition that was not life threatening but made her feel run down and listless a lot... to the point where she was not putting in her pioneer hours. not one person in the congregation told her to stop pioneering... they all told her to just hang in there and put as many hours as she could and then try to catch up later... the BORG wants its shiney examples for public record, they do not care if they kill you in the processes. after all what is better than to sacrifice your life in the service of Jehovah.

  After she stopped going to the meetings the elders came around from time to time, sure that I had corrupted her... little did they know, nor did they care to find out the truth of the matter.

  to this day I am sure they blame me for her leaving... she was gone long before I entered the picture, I just gave her the strength to stop the madness.

  In case you are wondering why she mentally left-- her mother and father, a local elder, used to come home from fooling the congregation and start beating the hell out of each other.

  she, being the good BORG DRONE that she was reported this to the elders when she feared they were on the verge of homocide....

  the judgment-- pray together at meals and study the watchtower more.

  she nearly committed suicide.

  she felt betrayed and left for dead by God....it was a nightmare to live with these violent people who now blamed her for her father having to step down from being an elder

  and airing the family dirt.
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  Experts study out-of-body experiences

  by rebel8 in

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  http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2007-08-23-out-of-body-experiences_n.htm .

  usa today .

  experts study out-of-body experiences .

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  the dreamer dreaming

  the world we know is a virtual one, invented by our mind, playing a symbolic body at its center... the body you know is not your actual body.

  when your brain pays too much attention to things outside the body, it can seem like you have left your body..but its only the symbolic body, you have never and will never know your true body's shape or form, which may have nothing to do with the human token you use to play this game called life.
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  If You Didn't Have The Internet & Places Like This, Would U Still Be a JW?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  clearly, the internet and sites like this one helped get me out.

  once i started continuously reading how the organization and watchtower writings were bogus, i couldn't help but get out!

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  the dreamer dreaming

  I think what helped erase most of my doubts was a single book call armegeddon delayed, which detailed everything I already knew, but from a perspective that I had not seen, and now that my mind was no longer making excuses for JW interpretations, I could see the Belief System for the BS it was.